DPSS Laser w/separate power supply All-in-1 DPSS Laser


> Your prices seem too good to be true - how do you do it?
I aim to please.  We save money by keeping a minimal inventory, and I am confident I'll be able to give you the best deal you would
find in the world, because my pricing is based on this:  I have volume purchase agreements with my suppliers, which simply means that even though I
might only order 1 unit from them at a time, over the course of the year, I will end up ordering a fair bit.  So they give me a great price, and I
simply tack on $100, and that is my profit margin - all I expect is that $100 facilitation fee, unless you happen to be extra happy and want to throw a donation on top of that to help continue our cause (our website and related community activities)

> How long do they last?  What's the warranty?
I am only able to pass on the manufacturer's warranty of 6 to 12 months depending on the model you purchase - check the technical specifications link for more details.  The laser systems are however rated for 5000 hours of usage before failure.  5000 hours means 500 all night shows!

> Why is this such a good deal / investment?
If you search the net, or check out your local DJ supplier, you will find 5mw laser show units costing upwards of $1000.  By assembling things yourself, you get to have more power for your cash, which translates to bigger events and more revenue in your pocket.  You can easily rent a 100mw system out for $300 per night, meaning you pay off your investment after only 4 rentals, and your laser would make you a lot more money during its expected lifetime.

 > Will they be like the cheap little radioshack/spider lasers in effect?
    For the current price, yes, they will be sound responsive to music, no more.    Many future options are available, such as vector laser grafix with texture mapped video all in complete SMPTE  sync - but add exponentially to price.  I can supply all, but am more shooting initially just to get lasers out there into hands of VJ's.  Later, after initial investment is paid off, VJ's can add $1000 to add proper galvos and conceptualize in their minds and output to screen.  The units are CW (continuous wave, not pulsed, and have an 10+ KHZ digital TTL modulation input for future computer control / blanking.)

>Just seen the DPSS laser system you have going on.  I can see all the tech specs, but actually, how strong is it?  Does it look good?  Or is it like one of those crappy crab laser things?

How strong is it?  Well, I guess unless you know a bit about lasers, 15mw really won't mean much to you.  Here's a quick lowdown:  The crappy crab laser things you are talking about typically use a 3 to 5 mw 650nm (red) diode.  We use a 12 to 15 mw 532nm (green) diode.  You might think this would only give you an increase in relative brightness by 200 to 400 percent, but since 532nm is very close to the peak spectral response of the human eye, it appears brighter than it actually is.  As a quick comparison to some of the low-end lasershows you might have seen, if we assign the relative brightness of an argon ion laser (blue/green) a factor of 1, then a 532nm DPSS green laser will have a relative brightness factor of 2.5 to 3. - So what that all means, is that our units will be approx 10 times "brighter" than the crab/widow units you can buy at your local DJ outlet.

So enough of all that, what you really want to know: does it look good?  Of course!  I wouldn't be offering a product that I wasn't proud to represent.  You can use this for small club gigs with an approximate 500 patron capacity - a little cigarette smoke/fog/haze in the air and it will look even more magical! You can use it in larger venues, but it won't outclass hi-end pro lasershows.  If you want to compete in that market, you should write me about upgrading your laser to a higher power unit.  I'm just trying to get these out at an awesome price to get peoples feet wet so to say.

All units over 50mw include active peltier/thermoelectric (TEC) cooling, which improves beam stability & longevity of the laser system.

The following prices include: the laser head and power supply (please specify if you want 5 VDC, 110/120 VAC or 220/240 VAC - all are modulatable).  Shipping via DHL courier to anywhere in the world is also included in the price, except for $10 of it (which is automatically added upon check-out by my shopping cart software.)  You will have the unit in your hands approx 7 days after payment.

Please note: Although the separate power supply units are rock bottom cheap - there are a couple of things I would like to add:
Because the laser head and the power supply are connected by a cable - you have to make sure to avoid static electricity when you are plugging or un-plugging that cable - otherwise you risk damaging the sensitive electronics.  Also, I have just been made aware of an additional delay on units higher than 100mw (strictly for the separate power supply models.   For powers up to and including 100mw, units will be delivered in the standard 1 week timeframe - however, due to manufacturing demand, and additional unit complexity, 150mw units will require a 2 week wait, and 200mw units a 4 week wait.  It is due to the above reasons, and others (tiny size, greater beam stability, optional analogue modulation), that I would personally recommend the "all-in-one" units.  It is your choice however, both models will equally meet or exceed your needs, so it comes down to budget I guess, but if you can swing it, I'd almost say go for a slightly less powered all-in-one rather than a separate unit - my personal opinion though.

w/separate power supply     all-in-one units  
unit technical specifications     series technical specifications  
20mw  -  $ 570      
50mw  -  $ 775   $ 855
80mw  -  $ 980   $ 1,000
100mw  -  $ 1,120   $ 1,205
120mw  -  $ 1,285   $ 1,405
150mw  -  $ 1,520   $ 1,715
180mw  -  $ 1,735   $ 2,120
200mw  -  $ 1,970   $ 2,350
    250mw $ 2,900
300mw $ 3,750
  500mw $ 6,475
1 watt $ 8,580
    2 watts $ 11,150  
5 watts $ 17,550
    10 watts $ 20,920  
20 watts $ 27,075
    30 watts $ 39,500  
50 watts $ 62,800
higher powers up to 1000+  watts available - please write  for pricing    
 click here for dealer pricing        

Please note: we offer a $30 discount (as then we don't pay credit card merchant fees) if you want to wire the money directly from your bank account.
Write if you'd prefer this option.

More questions/answered copied from an email to a potential client:  

>Is it true that with only >50mw output, the DPSS can be seen miles at night, and visible during day time?
Yes, with 50mw, you can shine it out your window, and see it on buildings up to about 6+ blocks away.  higher power, further, brighter, etc.  Obviously,
due to beam divergence, the spot size 6 blocks away is not as tight as on your living room wall - but for typical club/party shows beam divergence
isn't a problem and you can easily do graphic stuff.

>What's stability? The higher stability, the more expensive it is? Is it important to get higher stability, how much different between 5%, 15%?
All stability means is how much the beam power fluctuates.  Laser manufacturing is like CPU manufacturing.  Say the laser you buy is rated for
50mw.  So what that means is that you will typically get a laser with 10 to 20% higher output (eg: I just ordered a dozen 10mw units, and they all have
outputs of 12 to 16mw) This is done, because over time (think like half life of radioactive elements as an analogy) the beam output power will reduce a bit.  Eg: Start off at 65mw output on a 50mw rated laser - at half-life, eg: 2,500 hours of an estimated 5,000 hour DPSS module lifetime, the beam power will reduce to
a minimum of 50mw - so that way the manufacturer knows you will always be happy - like CPU's you can "overclock" your laser, and get a drastically
higher output power, however without proper cooling (TEC), this will reduce the lifetime of you laser on a curve similar to how much you increase the
power, just flipped to decrease the lifetime. What beam stability means, is that with a 50mw laser (actually outputting 60mw after 15 minute "warm-up")  with a 10% stability rate: So 10% of 50mw is 5mw - So your laser might typically produce 55mw, rising up and down between 50mw and 60mw, within the 10% stability range.  TEC cooling gives greater stability.  Not too much of an issue for entertainment applications, although if you can afford it, TEC cooling is really the way to go.  Depends on your priorities, budget and application.

>Now they have the blue/red/ultra violet DPSS?

Yes, we now have blue, red, and whitelight DPSS lasers, go here for details.

---and other email conversation:---

>"My client wants something a little brighter than what they previously had, it sounds like about 125mw DPSS would be about equal to a 250mw argon?"

Actually the apparent brightness of a 532nm DPSS laser is between 2.5 and 3.0 of an equivalent power argon.

> "I'm thinking of recommending 150-200mw for them. Sound about right?"

Sounds like it would rock!  I think they would be extremely happy.  Also, be aware that the DPSS lasers we carry typically output 15 to 20% higher power at
minimum (sometimes up to 50% more) than they are factory rated for.  So if you got a 200mw DPSS, this would likely output about 250mw, or equivalent to 750mw argon.  crazy eh?

>"Are the pictures on the absee site of patterns these lasers can make out of the box?"

No. - Due to CDRH and FDA regulations, if you are a resident of the USA, I cannot sell you a fully assembled laser projection system, as I would not have submitted it to them for certification.  I have to sell it to you as components, and even if it's as simple as plugging two wires together, that constitutes assembly on your part.  Depending which scanner system you buy, it will be as simple as 5 minutes of work pointing the laser into the scanner and checking for proper alignment, or up to a few hours of work, if you got a computer controlled system, and had to assembly it all into a case, etc.  For clients outside of the USA, we can assemble to your specifications - minimum charge $50 for 2 hours, $20 per hour after that, plus the cost of parts, if any - eg: case, misc switches, etc.  Keep in mind as a USA resident, to stay within the bounds of the law, you will have to apply to the CDRH for a "variance".

The prices on this site are for the laser unit only.  Adding a scanning system will cost you more.  A simple "black widow" type of scanner will cost approx $50 and do stuff to music, then there are things like the RedLine series of projectors that run $500 to $1000, and give you a rack mounted control unit that allows you do stuff like the ABsee pictures.

>"What about if I want to add computer control now or later?"

Computer control will cost a minimum of $1,600 more, but then you can do more mind bending things than I can describe with words.
Take your digital video files, and output them as vector or rotoscoped laser imagery - morph that into a rotating 3D Spirographic abstract, and then dissolve into a DJ Name.  Computer control is where it's at, but you have to spend the cash.  and the $1,600 figure is mid-range:  30 K scanners for approx $1,000 and then the Laser Illusions controller for approx $600.
High-end computer control starts about $ 2,000 USD + the cost of scanners.

>"Is it above what a decent lighting guy would be able to handle?"

If you got a simple black widow type of controller, then you would just plug it in, and the beat of the music would govern the changes.
If you get a red-line unit, then you get a rack mounted display that you can control just like a lighting board, or preprogram and have it do your show for you.
If you get a laser illusions controller, then you can pre-choreograph to sync with music or play live with full MIDI control, also with onscreen sliders for advanced effects -very intuitive stuff with this product - highly recommended, I used to own one myself before I upgraded to your next choice: pangolin -the industry standard.

Surf the pangolin site and prepare to be amazed - entry level price on the controller is $ 2,000 USD, but comes with lifetime support and continual new software upgrades.  They have even recently released a real-time MAME laservideo game port, real-time FFT music analysis and laser display with a pangolin plug-in for winamp, and synchronized video and laser show features tying into 3D MAX, allowing you to do your vectors in laser, and texture map with video.
and more...! : the best of the best, if you can afford it - but has a bit of a learning curve...not recommended for your lighting guy, unless you preprogram the shows, and let him sequence them, or just let them run on their own.

>"Are the higher models programmable at all? (basic bounce points)"

Both the laser-illusions and the pangolin products have full positioning/bounce, you name it.  With pangolin you have almost more features than you'd need: DMX, SMPTE, Preview your stuff on screen, output your laser shows to the web with built in html generation, the list is literally almost endless.

>"What's the turn-around time for my order?"

The laser system will be in your hands approx 7 days (*except where otherwise noted) after receipt of your payment, barring any delays due to unusual circumstances.

We are dealers for many of the above mentioned product links, so if you purchase through us, it allows me to make a tiny bit more cash than the $100
flat rate that I make on selling a laser to you.  Although you are always welcome to make a contribution above and beyond our flat rate profit - all money raised goes to expanding the services we offer through this website.

> I have more questions, who do I ask?
Feel free to write me at: lasers@audiovisualizers.com & give me your phone # if you want me to call you for a chat.

Lowest Cost, Quick & Easy Laser Show Scanning System How-To.
Higher End scanning system - computer control - step by step visual guide of scanner box w/laser.

Please note: At this time we are selling kits only, so some assembly is required.  If you want to purchase something, have any questions, or want to chat on the phone or whatever, just write us, and we'll do our best to help you out.      Distributors wanted!  Purchase for yourself, then demo for and sell to your clients.  Contact us for info.
We now have distributors on both the east and west coasts of the USA, & England.  
Client & Distributor List & Comments coming soon.
   Please note: Residents of the USA will receive the components in kit form due to FDA regulations, and will be required to file a variance form (pdf) with the government before you begin using your laser, if you want to do it legally.  I advise this, as it's better for the industry, and will save you hassle in the long run.

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